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:::::{{reply to|Whatamidoing (WMF)}} In my personal opinion (independent of the discussion on [[WP:KF-JAV]]) [[phab:T270788]] should definitely be a blocker—it should have been a blocker for the beta deployment, but better later than never.
:::::Also, I don’t expect that [[MediaWiki:Visualeditor-quick-access-characters.json]] will be available in DiscussionTools’ toolbar—I <em>know</em> it. I played around a bit on the [https://patchdemo.wmflabs.org/wikis/6db1b39e1a/wiki/Talk:Main_Page patch demo wiki], so if you open the special characters toolbar, [https://patchdemo.wmflabs.org/wikis/6db1b39e1a/wiki/MediaWiki:Visualeditor-quick-access-characters.json MediaWiki:Visualeditor-quick-access-characters.json]’s content will appear there (although the template insertions don’t really work in visual mode, since visual mode also inserts the curly brackets, but due to its WYSIWYG nature, it means that they get nowiki’d). Of course this could theoretically change with new patchsets on [https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/DiscussionTools/+/667417 Gerrit], but I don’t expect that to happen. —[[Szerkesztő:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]] <sup>[[Szerkesztővita:Tacsipacsi|vita]]</sup> 2021. július 13., 03:28 (CEST)
::::::To get templates in the visual mode, we have to get [[mw:User:PPelberg_(WMF)/sandbox|this draft technical RFC]] done.
::::::Is there a community consensus that [[phab:T270788]] is necessary before deployment? Whatever you all decide is necessary, I'm happy to stick in the list. It's better to include everything that you believe is necessary, because once they get to the end of the blockers list, they will believe that's all that's necessary before deploying it by default. [[Szerkesztő:Whatamidoing (WMF)|Whatamidoing (WMF)]] <sup>[[Szerkesztővita:Whatamidoing (WMF)|vita]]</sup> 2021. július 13., 23:54 (CEST)
 
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