Vita:Második kínai–japán háború

Legutóbb hozzászólt Laci.d 9 évvel ezelőtt a(z) Misuse of a photograph témában
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Helyesírás szerkesztés

Érdemes lenne átnézni a cikk kínai neveinek írását, helyesírását. Az egyik sorban piros linkkel szerepel a Guanxi, de szerintem ez Guangxi akar lenni. – Hujber Tünde vita 2011. január 5., 14:17 (CET)Válasz

Kicsit sietve csináltam meg a {{kínai}}(?) sablonra való átültetését, így elképzelhető, hogy vannak hibák. Majd megpróbálom újra átnézni. – Laci.d   vita 2011. január 9., 14:55 (CET)Válasz

helyes írásmód szerkesztés

aki leírja egy magyar nyelvű szócikkben, hogy Mao Zhedong, azt örökre el kéne tiltani a szerkesztéstől... – Aláíratlan hozzászólás, szerzője 84.236.82.87 (vitalap | szerkesztései) 2013. szeptember 11., 21:10 (CEST)Válasz

Akinek nem szúrja ki a szemét hogyan lehet váltani az írásmódok között, azt örökre...? – Laci.d   vita 2013. szeptember 11., 22:43 (CEST)Válasz

Misuse of a photograph szerkesztés

 
Japanese Naval Landing Force, awaiting attack orders whilst wearing gas masks in anticipation of a potential poison gas attack by the Chinese Army, maintaining the frontlines until the arrival of reinforcements (Chapei front, Shanghai).
 
The back cover of Pictorial World (『世界画報』, Sekai Gaho, December 1937)

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The caption Japán katonák gázmaszkban egy sanghaji gáztámadás idején is problematic.

  • Peter Harmsen writes in his Shanghai 1937: Stalingrad on the Yangtze, Whether the Japanese actually did use gas in Shanghai area was a matter of debate, and remains in the years after the battle. (Harmsen, pp. 178-179) In short, he says that Chinese side claimed/reported Japanese chemical attacks, Japanese side claimed/reported Chinese chemical attacks.
  • This photograph depicts an unit of the Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force (上陸), which was a small garrison and defended the northeastern rim of the Shanghai International Settlement. There is neither reports nor claims on gas attacks by the Shanghai Special Naval Landing Force.
  • This photograph was taken in the Chapei front, which includes some parts of Chapei (Zhabei) and Hongkew (Hongkou), during the Battle of Shanghai. There is neither reports nor claims about gas attacks in Chapei front.
  • Moreover, this photograph was used as the back cover of a Japanese magazine Pictorial World (『世界画報』, Sekai Gaho, Vol.13, No.12). The Japanese side which accused Chinese side of using poison gas at the time. If it depicted their own poison gas attack, they couldn't use it.
  • According to Ji Xueren (纪学仁/紀學仁, prof. of the PLA Chemical Warfare Command and Engineering Academy),Chinese side claims that the Japanese Imperial Army used chemical weapons (mainly tear gas) during the Battle of Shanghai. Dates, areas and targets that Ji Xueren claims are as follows:
  1. 4 October PM 7:00 Shih-hsiang-kung Taoist Temple (施相公廟) near Lo- tien (羅店) against 67th Division
  2. 5 October Morning same area
  3. 6 October Evening same area
  4. 9 October AM 11:00 Tung-chao-chia (東趙家), 3 km southeast of T'ang-ch'iao Station (塘橋站), against 1st Regiment of the 1st Division
  5. 15 October Noon Ch'en-chia-hsing (陳家行) against 32nd Division
  6. 28 October Ko-chia-t'ou (葛家頭)、Ch'ing-shui-hsien (清水顯) against 4th Division
  7. 28 October Ma-chia-chai (馬家宅) against 159th Division

All of places that Chinese claims on Japanese gas attacks during the Battle of Shanghai are far from Chapei front.

  • In spite of Japanese official reports on Chinese poison gas attacks during the Battle of Shanghai, whether the Chinese side did use poison gas in Shanghai area was also disputable. But at least it's the fact that the Japanese side, especially frontline troops were afraid of possible Chinese poison gas attacks, because Japanese news papers actually reported the Chinese poison gas attacks this.
  • The caption of this photograph in Sino-Japanese war: Records by News Photographers of Japan, U.S., and China is Japanese Naval Landing Force, awaiting attack orders whilst wearing gas masks in anticipation of a potential poison gas attack by the Chinese Army, maintaining the frontlines until the arrival of reinforcements (Chapei, Shanghai. (Sino-Japanese war, p. 38).

Thank you for the detailed information. At the time when the article was written, the image was taken from enwiki along with the wrong caption. Although the Hungarian translation did not mention that who have launched a gas attack, I changed the caption to be more accurate. Now it says that "Soldiers of the Japanese Naval Landing Force during Battle of Shanghai, wearing gas masks to counter a possible enemy gas attack". – Laci.d vita 2014. szeptember 12., 14:36 (CEST)Válasz

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